So as you know,
you're the fat cat developer,
and you know the book on you
is that you throw little old ladies
who can't afford to rent
part of the apartment.
I don't think that's the book on me,
if you want to hear
I don't think it is at all.
I think probably it's just the opposite.
We have very wealthy people
in this particular building.
We have a building on 100
Central Park South.
Probably the best piece of real estate
in New York and the world.
We have very wealthy people,
extremely wealthy people
living in this building.
We a second home.
It's quite accurate to say
that every occupant
is an extremely wealthy person.
No, the ones that are complaining
are the wealthy.
The ones that are complaining
are the wealthy.
These are people with a lot of money.
One of them is a brownstone.
A number of brownstones
in this 66th district
which is living in this building
for a rent -controlled rent.
The rent -controlled people,
the people that need rent control,
they're not the ones that are protected.
It's people that are usually wealthy
with a lot of influence
that have the connections
to get a rent -controlled apartment.
People that might need it,
they don't have to pay rent.
And it's a little fast.
I mean, that's a little bit like saying,
you know, people are out of
work
because they're lazy.
Well, I think it may be,
well, first of all, let's, let's, the, uh, the building I'm setting up for myself, you can settle,
you own it, and you, you make your deal with all the residents,
you're more than happy it. uh,
back to this, uh, this lawsuit.
So you hire, uh, Roy Cohn,
and he goes to work, and you own it.
Cohn doesn't like lawyers either,
because they always want to settle,
and you don't like that about lawyers.
The idea of settling drove me crazy.
The fact was that we did rent to
black -owned buildings.
What we didn't do was
rent to welfare cases,
white or black.
Watch what happened when the government
came after Samuel Lefranc, another builder,
and he caved in,
starting taking welfare cases.
They virtually ruined his building.
Um...
Welfare cases ruined his building.
Isn't that... I got you
pretty close here to...
To look like an insensitive guy
from atop your Trump Tower
looking down on the woman rank
over the vast homes of your
own empire.
shouldn't we have just a little
more understanding
from a man of your influence and wealth on the issue of making
New York livable for all of us safely on the subway easily?
If the answer is absolutely,
then we can't continue
to give you guys
these big tax breaks.
And that would go for General Electric
and NBC too.
You tell us in your own book
that you wouldn't have money
on the Trump Tower in New York or
in other places.
Trump Tower goes,
and I'm not entitled,
I'm the only building in
the city of New York
that's not entitled.
I don't think that's a good thing.
Look at the, look at the location
of your building.
What locations in the world
have funded this?
Sure, there are other
wonderful locations.
Also, they're also get
ting tax abatements.
I won the case,
they didn't give it to me.
It took me two and a half years in court.
I won it seventh
and I've been in three different courts.
I'm very happy about it.
I didn't win it because I so much needed it
as much as because of the moral principle
of using pedophilia.
If nobody's going to get it,
I'm satisfied.
If everybody's going to get it,
I shouldn't be the only one
that's not getting it.
And I know you well enough to know
that you wouldn't take it easy.
If you were in my position,
you wouldn't take that.
So, that's what happened.
Hey, let's hear it for the rich folk!
But, you tell us also in your book,
you left Queens
and you left Brooklyn for Manhattan
to, uh, to get away from rent control.
You're, you're earnest
to tell us in this
Well, I'm earnest.
Hey, I'm not running for anything.
I'm not running for, uh,
because I don't have to lie in a book.
I want to tell the facts, okay?
I mean, do you want me to say
Little Figs and Little This and Little That
and how much we all love rent control
and what a great thing it's
been for New York?
It's been a disaster for New York.
It's badly hurt New York.
It's crippled New York.
It's made it impossible
for a lot of people
to live in New York.
And you see what's happening.
You look at the Bronx.
You look at certain parts of
Queens and Brooklyn.
You see what rent control's done.
And I think you know it as well
as anybody else.
Rent control, and I'm one of the
few de velopers in the world
that would ever say it.
Some forms of rent control
are sometimes necessary,
to protect the elderly,
to protect people
that truly don't have the money,
but when you have multi -millionaires,
and not all instances of this.
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